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[*] posted on 6-3-2017 at 04:09
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Are you afraid of shares or you don't know, which 5-10 shares from the 30 shares in the index Dow Jones to buy?
This discussion forum was made to help with the selection of shares.

You need a low P/E, P/B, P/S and the sales and earnings of the company must grow. Buy shares with P/E < 15, P/B < 3, P/S < 3. ''<'' is ''below''.
Buy only shares of old and large companies! Market capitalization more than 20 billion USD.
Don't buy shares with the dividend yield below 2%! You need a dividend yield 3% to 8% of your capital yet in the first year. So look, which shares in the indices Dow Jones, DAX, Eurostoxx50, Stoxx50 have pay dividend more than 3%! And don't forget other large companies, which could be easily in Dow Jones too: AT&T, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, ......!
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To buy many shares of index or exchange traded fund - ETF
'''To purchase 15 shares of Dow Jones is totally different than to buy an ETF on Dow Jones. The shares bring dividends monthly and you can get 3% to 5% of your capital in the first year. And the dividend yield is increasing year by year. You avoid the shares without dividend or yield below 2%. But from the ETF you receive no dividends or only once in a year 0.5%. And you're paying every year 0.7% of the capital as a management fee for the ETF. If you want to sell shares after 1 year to 3 years with profit, you will buy 5 certain shares of Dow Jones with potential and you will earn 2 x more than with the index and ETF. And instead of Goldman Sachs you buy Wells Fargo. Instead of GM and Ford you are buy BMW. Instead of AIG you buy Munich Re. You will build a better index Dow Jones as the original. (I know, the stocks of GM, Ford and AIG are no longer in the Dow Jones.)'''
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[*] posted on 25-4-2017 at 06:56


DAX on the historic high on 24. April 2017
After Sunday's presidential election in France, separatist, racist Mrs. Le Pen reached the second place. In the first place was 39 year old independent Mr. Macron, which wants that France stay in the European Union and keeps the euro.
And so on Monday, the German DAX index rose + 3.0% and reached the historic high.
The French CAC index grew on Monday + 4.5% and reached the maximum since 2009. The year 2008 was higher and 2000 much higher.
My only French stock Sanofi grew + 3.3% of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange.
But my Spanish stock Banco Bilbao + 7.6% in Frankfurt.
The French stock BNP Paribas rose + 8.4% in Frankfurt, Credit Agricole + 9.0%. Societe Generale + 9.6%.
This Monday, 24.4.2017 some hours later in the USA rose Dow Jones just + 1.0% and Nasdaq 100 + 1.2%.
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[*] posted on 13-9-2017 at 01:52


Dow Jones 2.000.000 points
The Dow Jones index was founded in 1884. Today it has nearly 20.000 points, it grew in average 5.24% per year.
If in the value of the Dow Jones would be included also dividends, as in the DAX index, then the Dow Jones reached yet 2 million points until today, its value has grown in average 9.0% per year.
Without dividends the Dow Jones index will reach 2.000.000 points in the year 2100, said Warren Buffett, the growth would have average 5.71% each year. And it's easy, because at the time of internet there is much more interest in shares than in the years 1900-1990 before the internet.
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[*] posted on 26-11-2017 at 03:57


When not to give any money in funds or ETFs
If you don't like any fund manager in the world.
If you don't want to have all the shares from the fund, but neither one or just a tenth of them.
If you don't want to have all the shares from the index, but only a tenth of them.
If you want to participate only on for you sympathetic companies and no others.
If you want to buy only cheap shares with a good dividend from companies, they do not harm the competition.
|If you want to receive dividends every month and at 65 years, you want to have more money from dividends than from the pension.
If you want to let inherit children every month dividends.
If you want to be a fund manager and they don't want to employ you anywhere.
Then you have no other choice as to create your own fund from 10 to 20 shares from the USA and from the Western Europe.

Wann kein Geld in die Fonds und ETFs stecken
Wenn man keinen Fondsmanager in der Welt mag.
Wenn man nicht alle Aktien aus dem Fonds haben will, sondern keine oder nur ein Zehntel von ihnen.
Wenn man nicht alle Aktien aus dem Index haben will, sondern nur ein Zehntel von ihnen.
Wenn man sich nur an ihm sympathischen Unternehmen beteiligen will und keinen anderen.
Wenn man nur billige Aktien mit guter Dividende von Unternehmen kaufen will, denen die Konkurrenz nicht schadet.
Wenn man jeden Monat Dividenden erhalten will und mit 65 Jahren mehr Geld von Dividenden als von der Rente bekommen.
Wenn man seine Kinder jeden Monat Dividenden erben lassen will.
Wenn man ein Fondsmanager sein will, aber niemand will ihn beschäftigen.
Dann bleibt dir nichts anderes übrig, als einen eigenen Fonds aus 10 bis 20 Aktien aus Westeuropa und aus den USA zu gründen.

Cuando no dar dinero en los fondos o ETFs
Cuando ningún gerente de fondos en el mundo te gusta.
Cuando no quieres tener todas las acciones del fondo, pero ni una o sólo un décimo de ellos.
Cuando no quieres tener todas las acciones del índice, pero sólo un décimo de ellos.
Cuando quieres participar sólo en compañías a ti simpáticas y no en otras.
Cuando quieres comprar sólo acciones baratas con un buen dividendo de las empresas, que no perjudica la competencia.
Cuando quieres recibir dividendos cada mes y con 65 años tener más dinero de dividendos que de pensión.
Cuando quieres dejar tus niños heredar dividendos cada mes.
Cuando quieres ser un administrador del fondo, pero ningún quiere emplearte.
Entonces no te queda nada que crear tu propio fondo de 10 a 20 acciones de Europa occidental y Estados Unidos.




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We like value investing, to buy shares cheaply, with P/E below 15, P/B below 3.0, P/S below 3.0. If we want to sell the shares after one year with a profit, the enterprise or bank should expect that the earnings will grow more than 20% in the next 4 quarters. Also, the dividend should be paid, because even stocks with growth potential may be a year in the red and then it is boring, to be one year without dividend. In retirement, we want to receive an income higher from dividends than from the pension insurance. Here we will buy cheaply blue chip shares from old and large enterprises and banks, which the past 12 years approximately 10% per year increased revenues, earnings and dividends. When we buy these shares, they must have a dividend yield over 3.0% and we will keep them forever. After us, our kids will inherit them. Most of these shares are in the indices Dow Jones, Eurostoxx50, Stoxx50 and DAX.




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